Jerry B. Altzman schreef: On 9/28/2006 6:34 PM, hal@nospam.com wrote: On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:19:21 GMT, "Kris" <kris.mcadcontributer(removethistoe-mail)@gmail.com> wrote: I wouldn't have stuck with it as long as I did if it had just been punching air, kata, and drills. I'm not going to argue the merits/idiocy of these things, all I'm saying is that I wouldn't have