... information or practical techniques. The guru presents situations to the student...provide opportunities to open up, cut through confusion, and discover enlightenment...the assumption of authority that 'guru' implies, which is bogus. It...surrender, as expressed in the guru-student relationship, is a critial...more discussion about what the guru learns from the student? Because...

...of Trungpa's "Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism", entitled "The Guru". In the ... information or practical techniques. The guru presents situations to the student that... will *get* something from a guru -- happiness, peace, wisdom, whatever it ... some traditional myths of the guru, featuring the revered Naropa, who ... each of these tales, the guru poses some extraordinarily arduous, seemingly ...

... and around, trying to improve ourselves through struggle, until we realize that the...the abhisheyka of openning to the guru, is the moment when you ...> realize that someone else, your guru, is awake and that you also...without knowledge, without the sword that cuts through doubt and hesitation, his actions...the empty realm? :)) Are you reading Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism BTW? We'...

... and around, trying to improve ourselves through struggle, until we realize that the ... the abhisheyka of openning to the guru, is the moment when you realize that someone else, your guru, is awake and that you also...and dissolve.  It is that which cuts through all conceptualized versions of bodhisattva...without knowledge, without the sword that cuts through doubt and hesitation, his actions...

... and around, trying to improve ourselves through struggle, until we realize that the ... the abhisheyka of openning to the guru, is the moment when you realize that someone else, your guru, is awake and that you also ... and dissolve. It is that which cuts through all conceptualized versions of bodhisattva ... without knowledge, without the sword that cuts through doubt and hesitation, his actions...

...have to solve this one ourselves. No guru can help us here. But he suggests...> A lot of syrup to cut through. What is your understanding of ..., - what we're all going through. The whole thingy and death as ... argues that achieving a special state through meditation can be bad if we ... nadi chakra symbology is about. Magic, cutting through stuck patterns of behavior and ...

... that we have to solve this one ourselves. No guru can help us here. But he suggests some strategies:... of loving-kindness and the other divine abidings. A lot of syrup to cut through. What is your understanding of such sugar-coated concepts as "unconditional/... I think Trungpa argues that achieving a special state through meditation can be bad if we use it as...

...? Trungpa claims that we have to solve this one ourselves. No guru can help us here. But he suggests some strategies: compassion (also with ... devoted to the development of loving-kindness and the other divine abidings. A lot of syrup to cut through. What is your understanding of such sugar-coated concepts as "unconditional/universal loving-kindness"? Which...

...of this? Trungpa claims that we have to solve this one ourselves. No guru can help us here. But he suggests some strategies: compassion (also with ... techniques devoted to the development of loving-kindness and the other divine abidings. A lot of syrup to cut through. What is your understanding of such sugar-coated concepts as "unconditional/universal loving-kindness"? Which, if ...

On 29 Jan, 20:53, monkeym...@hactrn.ch (Monkey Mind) wrote: Chade <ch...@newsguy.com> writes: The 'cutting through' threads have gone a bit quiet. Florin, rather than me doing two summaries on the trot can you ... being always peaceful or pleasant. Even in the relationship with our guru we are not passive but active. Similarly we must ...