...outrage" of mine? Are you sure? Again you attempt to mischaracterize what I say. The subject of this thread is the content of the book "Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism", which is a book you haven't read and apparently don't want to discuss at all. Instead, you seem to want to express ...

.... The treatment of the spiritual quest as something important, something valuable that we must possess, is an aspect of what Trungpa called "spiritual materialism". Have you read "Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism" yet? It's the book we're discussing in this thread.

......@gmail.com> wrote: On Feb 29, 4:38 am, The Speaking Clock <harlequin..., 00:02, monkeym...@hactrn.ch (Monkey Mind) wrote: Chapter 13 of "Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism" by Chögyam Trungpa. Summary: Cutting through our concepts with the sword of prajna, ... experience of shunyata is developed only through discipline.  Some technique is necessary, ...

......@gmail.com> wrote: On Feb 29, 4:38 am, The Speaking Clock <harlequin..., 00:02, monkeym...@hactrn.ch (Monkey Mind) wrote: Chapter 13 of "Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism" by Chögyam Trungpa. Summary: Cutting through our concepts with the sword of prajna, ... experience of shunyata is developed only through discipline.  Some technique is necessary, ...

On Feb 29, 4:38 am, The Speaking Clock <harlequin...@live.co.uk>... (Monkey Mind) wrote: Chapter 13 of "Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism" by Chögyam Trungpa. Summary: Cutting through our concepts with the sword of prajna, we discern shunyata: non-... The experience of shunyata is developed only through discipline.  Some technique is necessary, yet ...

... honest people? ...uhm...so i can fool them? Why are you asking me what your motivation is? Don't you know? Didn't your guru tell you? So you don't have to go through the inconvenience of having to question what they say, and test things for yourself? yep. that's why i like critical free-thinkers. to herd together in a thoughtless mass. I thought so. ...

...s based on "what the fuck are you doing??, and look again". Moreover, what's your motivation in finding honest people? ...uhm...so i can fool them? So you don't have to go through the inconvenience of having to question what they say, and test things for yourself? yep. that's why i like critical free-thinkers. to herd together in a thoughtless mass. This is not a ...

... superfluous, to me, unless, as I said, you're interested in a jolly good round of mutual back-slapping. Moreover, what's your motivation in finding honest people? So you don't have to go through the inconvenience of having to question what they say, and test things for yourself? This is not a smart way to proceed. the only alternitive is being dishonest with yourself, etc.... So it...

..., depending on your fellows. Just being completely open with someone can be a big deal, and I can see how it could help stop you hiding things from yourself. Certainly. Not cutting your fingers off with a kitchen knife could also "be a good thing," but we tend not to give that special prominence. I'm not saying such things can't help, as they certainly can. ...

... a good thing, depending on your fellows. Just being completely open with someone can be a big deal, and I can see how it could help stop you hiding things from yourself. Certainly. Not cutting your fingers off with a kitchen knife could also "be a good thing," but we tend not to give that special prominence. I'm not saying such things can't help, as they certainly can. Over on...