... not £37 either]. I was wrong about the 65 pounds, that's what you have to pay if you get on the train without a ticket, I know because I witnessed it first hand in my carriage. You witnessed something else. There is no £65 fare, penalty or otherwise. I would like to know what I witnessed, the guy was asked for his ticket and he volenteered he didn't have one ...
... £37 either]. I was wrong about the 65 pounds, that's what you have to pay if you get on the train without a ticket, I know because I witnessed it first hand in my carriage. You witnessed something else. There is no £65 fare, penalty or otherwise. I would like to know what I witnessed, the guy was asked for his ticket and he volenteered he didn't have one as he ran ...
... simple conditions that almost everyone (but it seems yourself) are happy to comply with? No, by seeking to levy penalty fares in circumstances when the National Conditions of Carriage do not permit that. One might even wonder if that is a form of theft. Wrong, it complies with: "The Train Companies may give you more extensive rights than those set out ...
... attempted imposition - by SWT of penalty fares on any passenger who dares to end his/her journey early is most certainly NOT in accordance with condition 16 (paragraph 2) of the National Conditions of Carriage: "If you start, break and resume, or end your journey at an intermediate station, when you are not entitled to do so, you will be liable to pay an excess fare. This excess ...
...) there isn't one. All you can buy is a £12.40 single each way. [That's a bit odd, I agree, but it's not £37 either]. I was wrong about the 65 pounds, that's what you have to pay if you get on the train without a ticket, I know because I witnessed it first hand in my carriage. You witnessed something else. There is no £65 fare, penalty or otherwise. -- Roland Perry
...> What, by offering tickets at staggeringly low prices, with very simple conditions that almost everyone (but it seems yourself) are happy to comply with? No, by seeking to levy penalty fares in circumstances when the National Conditions of Carriage do not permit that. One might even wonder if that is a form of theft. -- x If you have been, did the gripper wear a mask? /|\
... or attempted imposition - by SWT of penalty fares on any passenger who dares to end his/her journey early is most certainly NOT in accordance with condition 16 (paragraph 2) of the National Conditions of Carriage: "If you start, break and resume, or end your journey at an intermediate station, when you are not entitled to do so, you will be liable to pay an excess fare. This excess fare ...
... Or you can present the situation as the existence of a "fee" for changing your mind and not (in your terms) "being imprisoned". I have since read paragraph 16 of the National Conditions of Carriage and, whilst I would be inclined to consider them the sort of wooly- minded nonsense one might expect of "new" Labour, I can see why you might believe an excess fare might be levied. However, ...
... low, has now sunk below zero. The fare is 9 pounds Cheap Day Return, 14 pounds Day Return. No it isn't, it's 37 pounds for a non restriced return. both the fares you quote are concession fares with restrictions. I was wrong about the 65 pounds, that's what you have to pay if you get on the train without a ticket, I know because I witnessed it first hand in my carriage.
... by rail due to the devious route around hills and inlets. 79.5 miles, so yes a bit more. So it's still a concession fare with restrictions, the walk on fare is about 65 quid isn't it? Your gripper guy charged someone in my carriage 65 quid for a PZ PLY return when he didn't have a ticket. Regardless of whose fault it was the fare is 65 pounds return isn't it?