... does help. My mother was a part time music teacher at one time and she did try, but rapidly realised ... is one of coordinating the ear and the throat. It happens with different children at different ages. I think it's just that when I was younger ..... But in truth, I've long accepted that any sort of musical career is not for me, there are other things I can do much better and while ...

... problem is one of coordinating the ear and the throat. It happens with different children at different ages. I've got a choir in my school which I'm lucky ...put it down mainly to the fact that she was singing alongside children who were in tune. Plus wanting to. Plus getting older. I'm not ...though, RIchard! Still doesn't stop me enjoying music, but making those around me able to endure ...

...$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk>, del2@cam.ac.uk (Douglas de Lacey) wrote: I wonder how many children he/she thinks are tone-deaf? I was told at the tender age of 5 that I couldn't sing. It may have ... lack of success either at achieving a note that isn't flat or to get more than one. Still doesn't stop me enjoying music, but making those around me able to endure my attempts to *make* it..

... not. I disagree totally, absolutely, completely. But then, you'd have to define what you mean by "music" in that context. Who is it for? I'd have thought "personal pleasure" is an adequate answer. And being taught hugely... you chuck all the tone-deaf kids out of your class? I wonder how many children he/she thinks are tone-deaf? I was told at the tender age of 5 that I...

... the school is rubbish. Any natural excellence is usually bullied underground by the peer group. Nobody likes a smart-ass. Not even teachers, these days. Doesn't follow. ... be measured. Neither I nor anyone else has made him any promises that he's heading for a musical career. But I get the impression that you and magwitch would have said I was wasting my time. When I was teaching...

... organ at home but would never want anyone else to hear them? Which of these people can "do" music well enough to satisfy your criteria? Which of them deserved to have what little promise they might ... of the contestants. Mediocrity rules. And that has exactly what to do with the teaching of musical skills to children in school? If you're suggesting that we shouldn't teach anything at all...

...short learning how to think, might be a better educational basis than learning how to wave your hands in time with the music.. I'm sure you're quite capable oof ignoring it but there is piles of research which indicates that experience of music during education helps with self-esteem, maths ability, social skills and a host of other things...

... magwitch <a@c.d> wrote: I really do think children are either musical or not. That's a bit like saying they're literate or not. Most people are at least "a bit" musical in the same way that most people are at least ..., so his parents bought him a proper one. It's like reading. Many children spend their time handling books because they see their parents ...

Linda Fox wrote: I don't think you can keep music and movement entirely separate Stockhausen? *grin* Jon -- SPAM BLOCK IN USE! To reply in email, replace 'deadspam' with 'green-lines'.

...a Gucci suit with two dying children in her arms.. Oh ha ha. Very drole. Now check out what has actually been done with music in real life in Venezuela ... grand that discovering oil has made a heck of a lot MORE difference to children in Venezuela.. And how will you go about assessing that? I mean, so many people who went through el...