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Re: Better Weather in North Texas Prevents the ACW--Part One     

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Author: Alfred Montestruc
Date: May 18, 2008 06:03

...etc.) Here I would like to argue that a change in the weather in North Texas in peacetime--the summer of 1860-- could have *prevented* a war. More ... the ACW as we know it. To make this seemingly extraordinary claim a bit more plausible, I will discuss the Texas ... rather than Breckenridge, and? The largest effect I think that better weather in northern Texas might do is cause ...
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Better Weather in North Texas Prevents the ACW--Part One     

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Author: David Tenner
Date: May 16, 2008 09:33

....) Here I would like to argue that a change in the weather in North Texas in peacetime--the summer of 1860-- could have *prevented* a war. More... scares were more localized than the 'Texas Troubles,' they were made to appear to be a part of a vast, concerted abolitionist... at a worse time for those who loved the Union, or at a better time for those who wished to destroy it. The breathtakingly...
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Re: Better Weather in North Texas Prevents the ACW--Part One     

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Author: David Tenner
Date: May 20, 2008 08:54

... this idea: what if the drought-and-fire-afflicted area was in Kansos, rather than Texas; i.e. "Burning Kansas?? Presumably "prairie matches" would be available in stores in..." were yet commonplace in Kansas in 1856, the year of the greatest violence in that territory. The accounts of the Texas Troubles of 1860 usually state that such matches had only "recently" been made ...
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Re: Better Weather in North Texas Prevents the ACW--Part One     

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Author: Rich Rostrom
Date: May 20, 2008 00:12

David Tenner <dtenner@ameritech.net> wrote: Donald E. Reynolds has a discussion of this in chapter six of his recent *Texas Terror: The Slave Insurrection Panic of 1860 and the Secession of the Lower South* (Baton Rouge: LSU Press 2007), which I have just started reading... Gee, what a coincidence! (Not, I think. This is a great seed, as so ofter drawn from Mr. Tenner's ...
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Re: Better Weather in North Texas Prevents the ACW--Part One     

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Author: Alfred Montestruc
Date: May 19, 2008 07:34

... in this ATL, you have a better chance of stopping it in the other Deep South states.) I will go into more detail in Part Two.... Reynolds has a discussion of this in chapter six of his recent *Texas Terror: The Slave Insurrection Panic of 1860... (since many of them wanted the convention to make demands on the North which the latter was unlikely to accept) or were disguised Unionists...
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Re: Better Weather in North Texas Prevents the ACW--Part One     

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Author: David Tenner
Date: May 19, 2008 06:14

... 2. Here it is sufficient to say that (1) The alleged Texas slave insurrection conspiracy was constantly referred ... in this ATL, you have a better chance of stopping it in the other Deep South states.) I will go into more detail in Part Two ... (since many of them wanted the convention to make demands on the North which the latter was unlikely to accept) or were disguised Unionists....
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Re: Better Weather in North Texas Prevents the ACW--Part One     

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Author: Rich Rostrom
Date: May 17, 2008 21:19

...@ameritech.net> wrote: Rich Rostrom <rrostrom.21stcentury@rcn.com> wrote: As a variant to this idea: what if the drought-and-fire-afflicted area was in Kansos, rather than Texas; i.e. "Burning Kansas?? Presumably "prairie matches" would be available in stores in both free- soil and pro-slavery settlements in Kansas, and since the settlements were relatively close ...
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Re: Better Weather in North Texas Prevents the ACW--Part One     

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Author: David Tenner
Date: May 17, 2008 06:36

...inciting slaves to arson. I did not know about the extraordinary weather conditions. Reminds me of 1871 in the upper Midwest ...prior post I cited Donald Reynolds' essay on the Texas Troubles I did not know that he now has a book out on the subject ...generally agreed that the burning was the work of incendiaries sent from the North to burn us out so that we could not resist invasion ...
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Re: Better Weather in North Texas Prevents the ACW--Part One     

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Author: Rich Rostrom
Date: May 16, 2008 21:25

... extraordinary claim a bit more plausible, I will discuss the Texas Fire Scare--or "Texas Troubles"--of 1860, an event which ... and inciting slaves to arson. I did not know about the extraordinary weather conditions. Reminds me of 1871 in the upper Midwest (Chicago and... the drought-and-fire-afflicted area was in Kansos, rather than Texas; i.e. "Burning Kansas?? -- | People say "There'...
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