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[BOTM] Real Magic 3 - Parapsychology     

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Author: Chade
Date: Jun 4, 2008 04:49

... the nadir of IB's Real Magic, contradicting much of the ... such as psychology and parapsychology. IB sees parapsychology as an opportunity ... continuing his efforts to simplify magic. This leads us to something ... such a small scale then magic fire starting, water into wine,... around with the idea that magic can be bound up with ... magick? What other pieces of magical jargon do you believe there ...
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Author: Gale
Date: Jun 8, 2008 13:35

... article were a kick; I'm chuckling vigorously at the intersection of Alfred North Whitehead and George Carlin on the quote list. (I'm referring to the wikipedia article as found at 3:26pm CDT, June 8, 2008.) -- Blessed Be, Gale original fiction, poetry, reviews http://www.capjewels.com "Progress which pursues only the next invention, progress which pulls thought out of the ...
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Re: [BOTM] Real Magic 3 - Parapsychology     

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Author: Tom
Date: Jun 6, 2008 15:16

... them can dispute that what we experience is what's real, not what we think that experience means, but the experience... is, by your statement, fully entitled to claim the real existence of the past, a claim you adamantly objected to ... more in the range of William James who noted, regarding various parapsychological phenomena, that we have evidence of 'something,' but evidence...
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Author: Gale
Date: Jun 6, 2008 13:31

...of them can dispute that what we experience is what's real, not what we think that experience means, but the ...the past is, by your statement, fully entitled to claim the real existence of the past, a claim you adamantly objected to in ... more in the range of William James who noted, regarding various parapsychological phenomena, that we have evidence of 'something,' but evidence which ...
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Re: [BOTM] Real Magic 3 - Parapsychology     

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Author: Tom
Date: Jun 6, 2008 10:42

... are "foolish"? An argument from authority. All those "impressive people" are not right simply because they're "impressive". Not one of them can dispute that what we experience is what's real, not what we think that experience means, but the experience in itself. It is self-evident. It is not extrapolated from something else. Our private experience is the ground upon which all our...
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Author: Tom
Date: Jun 5, 2008 23:02

... realism, not the naive kind or any of the other modifiers, does not require any explanations. Realism does not say "it is what it appears to be". Realism says "it is". What we experience is real. That is because it is self-evident. It's our experience. If it were not our experience, we wouldn't be experiencing it and then what the hell would we be talking about? When we remember ...
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Author: Gale
Date: Jun 5, 2008 10:42

... can "jump" into. Everything, even the past and the future, is in the present moment. <snip> The present moment doesn't exist. Only the past and the future are real. Oh, stop working so hard to be contrary. You're making an ass of yourself. Again. First an unsubstanciable declaration stated in the form of a fact, then an ad hominem. Two posts, your ...
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Author: Tom
Date: Jun 5, 2008 08:02

...What Isaac failed to realize is that "past" and "future" are merely recollection and anticipation, not other worlds that one can "jump" into. Everything, even the past and the future, is in the present moment. <snip> The present moment doesn't exist. Only the past and the future are real. Oh, stop working so hard to be contrary. You're making an ass of yourself. Again.
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Author: Meltdarok
Date: Jun 5, 2008 02:18

...>>>> into. Everything, even the past and the future, is in the present moment. <snip> The present moment doesn't exist. Only the past and the future are real. Think about that possibility -- then maybe you'll hesitate before you advance metaphysical assertions with so much certainty. It is demonstrably true that all you perceive as "now" ...
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Author: David Cantu
Date: Jun 4, 2008 21:09

...snip> The present moment doesn't exist. Only the past and the future are real. Think about that possibility -- then maybe you'll hesitate before you advance metaphysical assertions with so...split second ahead of the conscious "you" and in a sense this future you is the real objective you and the conscious you is literally an afterthought. So I can't really demonstrate ...
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