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Article: Group selection, a theory whose time has come...again     

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Author: John W Edser
Date: Dec 2, 2007 11:52

... Subject: Article: Group selection, a theory whose time has come...again ... public expense, of course). Their evolutionary theory _rationale_remains fatally flawed because the fitness...forty years of confusion and divergent theories. JE;- Predictably, the empirical result was...today's ignorant epistemology reducing evolutionary theory to consensus politics. Historically the disastrous...
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Author: Alberto Gómez Corona
Date: Dec 2, 2007 11:52

....net.au> wrote: Group selection, a theory whose time has come...again ... not recovered since. In a landmark article for The Quarterly Review of Biology,... forty years of confusion and divergent theories. They propose a new consensus and...field until now. Based on current theory and evidence, Wilson and Wilson show that natural selection is unequivocally a multilevel process, ...
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Author: Robert Karl Stonjek
Date: Nov 29, 2007 14:12

Group selection, a theory whose time has come...again Sociobiology, the discipline...in theoretical disarray. In a landmark article for the December issue of the...Sloan Wilson and Edward O. Wilson-whose book Sociobiology:The New Synthesis ...forty years of confusion and divergent theories. They propose a new consensus ... and Wilson show that natural selection is unequivocally a multilevel process, ...
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Author: Lorentz
Date: Dec 18, 2007 09:56

... be mathematically equivalent. However, kin selection cannot be properly interpreted as ... individual. In other words, kin selection theory has no validity outside ... framework. The Wilson and Wilson article referred to by RKS supports ... argument classically used to dismiss group selection. It certainly could be explained by kin selection. In some species, both genders ...
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Author: John W Edser
Date: Dec 18, 2007 09:56

... remains minimally tricentric (genes/individuals/groups of individuals) but contradictory. Such ... defined, reducing the rate of time advancing forward to be just ... Darwinian falsifiable mono centric evolutionary theory, the critical controlling frame of ...If you make this dicentrically group selective or polycentric gene centric...down and new stuff is coming up. But it works for...
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Author: John W Edser
Date: Dec 7, 2007 13:32

...itself an improvement. In the old time popular literature and in discussions between nonscientists, the words group selection was grossly misused. Nonscientific people referred to the groups protecting themselves, struggling, etc. etc. ...this is what Stonjek meant by "coming back," then I agree. Using ... individual. In other words, kin selection theory has no validity outside ...
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Author: Lorentz
Date: Dec 2, 2007 11:52

... is itself an improvement. In the old time popular literature and in discussions between nonscientists, the words group selection was grossly misused. Nonscientific people referred to the groups protecting themselves, struggling, etc. etc. (e....not only more precise, it depersonalizes "the group" a little. If this is what Stonjek meant by "coming back," then I agree. Using a concept...
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Author: Lorentz
Date: Dec 2, 2007 11:52

...realm as well. Claiming that "group selection" is coming back is a little...models are not mutually exclusive. The "group" contains individuals, each of which is... contains "genes." I think that group-centric models are a special ... understand the dynamics of certain groups. Chemists are always doing things ... claiming that "classical thermodynamics is coming back." This doesn't mean ...
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Author: John W Edser
Date: Dec 2, 2007 11:52

...ignored Wynne-Edwards last book "Evolution through Group Selection" where he tried to answer ...of well articulated and compelling evidence for group selection that has simply been glossed over...group selectee but simply, one group acting as a selective force on Darwinian individuals. IOW, the Baldwin effect.... even separate the individual from a group of individuals. The inability of Neo ...
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Author: Entertained by my own EIMC
Date: Dec 7, 2007 13:32

... cannot even separate the individual from a group of individuals. What's wrong with polycentrism in ... accepted Newtonian physics, which is a polycentric theory. Newton's theory of gravity was preceded by Kepler's Laws. Now there was a monocentric theory (the sun being the center). However, .... It breaks down and new stuff is coming up. But it works for most of your ...
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