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Re: Bus driver arrested in the Bus Vs Tram collision in Croydon     

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Author: ®i©ardo
Date: Sep 19, 2008 11:49

Derek wrote: On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:04:34 +0100, ®i©ardo <here@nowhere.com> wrote: The Thurrock Gazette reports traffic accidents in Croydon? Does nothing happen in Thurrock? Well, it's a sort of Gray(s) area! Near Silvertown by any chance? Derek That's really bright! ;-) -- Moving things in still pictures!
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Re: Bus driver arrested in the Bus Vs Tram collision in Croydon     

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Author: Derek
Date: Sep 18, 2008 13:39

On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:04:34 +0100, ®i©ardo <here@nowhere.com> wrote: The Thurrock Gazette reports traffic accidents in Croydon? Does nothing happen in Thurrock? Well, it's a sort of Gray(s) area! Near Silvertown by any chance? Derek
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Re: Bus driver arrested in the Bus Vs Tram collision in Croydon     

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Author: ®i©ardo
Date: Sep 18, 2008 13:04

... was one of six people taken to hospital following the incident in central Croydon, south London, on Sunday morning. Police said the bus collided with a...>> Does this spell the end of Ken's murderous progeny? Derek The Thurrock Gazette reports traffic accidents in Croydon? Does nothing happen in Thurrock? Well, it's a sort of Gray(s) area! -- Moving ...
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Re: Accident in Croydon     

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Author: John B
Date: Sep 11, 2008 08:15

On Sep 11, 11:50 am, Adrian <toomany2...@gmail.com> wrote: A quick google suggests that the Croydon trams have a capacity of 200 people and a kerb weight of 36t - so a laden weight of about 50t Compare ... place (if it swerved into the tram's path to avoid a car: far better to just hit the car and contain the accident there). -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org
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Re: Accident in Croydon     

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Author: Adrian
Date: Sep 11, 2008 03:50

... people than any other vehicle that it runs into (an assumption which, IME, would hold pretty much all the time in Croydon) then that's a good trade-off. A quick google suggests that the Croydon trams have a capacity of 200 people and a kerb weight of 36t - so a laden weight of about 50t Compare that to ...
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Re: Accident in Croydon     

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Author: David Cantrell
Date: Sep 11, 2008 03:14

... it. If you assume that the tram will be carrying a great many more people than any other vehicle that it runs into (an assumption which, IME, would hold pretty much all the time in Croydon) then that's a good trade-off. -- David Cantrell | Nth greatest programmer in the world I remember when computers were frustrating because they did exactly what you told them to. That seems ...
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Re: Accident in Croydon     

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Author: Nick Leverton
Date: Sep 10, 2008 12:31

... bus is I'd guess the windows just shattered and fell out on impact. The tram seems fairly intact in the pictures. Apart from it having derailed you'd never know it had been in an accident. Must be built a lot stronger than the bus. Maybe the safety bedwetters in the HMRI have done some good after all! Seriously, though, is it any secret that rail vehicles are built much...
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Re: Accident in Croydon     

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Author: Tom Anderson
Date: Sep 10, 2008 11:15

... is I'd guess the windows just shattered and fell out on impact. The tram seems fairly intact in the pictures. Apart from it having derailed you'd never know it had been in an accident. Must be built a lot stronger than the bus. Maybe the safety bedwetters in the HMRI have done some good after all! Seriously, though, is it any secret that rail vehicles are built much tougher ...
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Re: Accident in Croydon     

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Author: Boltar
Date: Sep 10, 2008 10:41

...'t appear to be much of the upper front window remaining. Well the bus did have an argument with a tram and lost. Given how mangled the front of the bus is I'd guess the windows just shattered and fell out on impact. The tram seems fairly intact in the pictures. Apart from it having derailed you'd never know it had been in an accident. Must be built a lot stronger than the bus. B2003
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Re: Accident in Croydon     

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Author: Tom Anderson
Date: Sep 9, 2008 16:29

...crossover could be integrated? Really, though, the solution is just not to build cycle lanes. Copious research shows that in situations like this - indeed, in almost all urban situations - they cause more accidents than they prevent. Anyway, some more dickery in return - i've been meaning to post this photo for ages, and you've prompted me to do so: http://www.flickr.com/photos/twic...
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