..." that I am investigating. The hypothesis says that the person's consciousness "descends to the cytoskeleton level" after the neuronal system flatlines. this is based on the work of Penrose/Hameroff who show that cytoskeleton (microtubule) consciousness actually exists. this is the place where 'Heaven' actually exists. This means that the resucitated person has ...

... explanation..... namely that it is Microtubule Consciousness as outlined by Penrose/...>had the dream. Memory and conscious thought are totally different. We... studied THOUSANDS of cardiac arrest NDE's and thier "professional opinion...strong support to the "cytoskeleton/microtubule" model of "thinking" since blood...brain itself. [Hammond] The cytoskeleton/microtubule system IS IN THE BRAIN...

....com> wrote in message news:1189358143.420126.116890@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... If Penrose and Hameroff are wrong, then something very like what they propose must be right. Consciousness must have a quantum component for all the reasons that Penrose cites. The physical world cannot be completely deterministic, which everyone understands intuitively. All we ...

...the Penrose/Hameroff (cytoskeleton) model of consciousness. In that model Penrose/Hameroff clearly...high level cogtnitive consciousness IS being conducted at the microtubule level. For instance...to assertain that. [Hammond] Fact is "consciousness" exists at both the cytoskeleton ... actual living example of "cytoskeleton consciousness". When looking at an E-...

... the brain EEG "flatlines", human consciousness descends (by default) from the...to argue that this dream consciousness must be coming from some...of these "near death exprieinces" (NDE's) involving a dream state...nothing other than the "CYTOSKELETON CONSCIOUSNESS" that I hypothesised in my...direct experience of the "microtubule world" of consciousness..... it is in...

...the brain EEG "flatlines", human consciousness descends (by default) from the...such a thing as "cytoskeleton consciousness" and where is the evidence...of these "near death exprieinces" (NDE's) involving a dream state...nothing other than the "CYTOSKELETON CONSCIOUSNESS" that I hypothesised in my...direct experience of the "microtubule world" of consciousness..... it is in...

... has recently posited that this microtubule system could actually provide a ... the brain EEG "flatlines", human consciousness descends (by default) from the ... of these "near death exprieinces" (NDE's) involving a dream state,... nothing other than the "CYTOSKELETON CONSCIOUSNESS" that I hypothesised in my... direct experience of the "microtubule world" of consciousness..... it is in...

... has recently posited that this microtubule system could actually provide a ... the brain EEG "flatlines", human consciousness descends (by default) from the ...one of these "near death exprieinces" (NDE's) involving a dream state,... nothing other than the "CYTOSKELETON CONSCIOUSNESS" that I hypothesised in my ... direct experience of the "microtubule world" of consciousness..... it is in ...

...believe that the: Neuronal brain versus the Microtubule brain If paragraphs necessarily contain, sentences,.... An actual living example of "cytoskeleton consciousness". The fallacy of Division is committed when...dualism between the Neuronal Bran and the Microtubule Brain...... basically the Neuronal Brain is conscious, and the Microtubule Brain is unconscious.... and ...

....invalid> wrote: SNIP Fact is we JUST DON'T KNOW whether these NDE's are or are not happening while the brain is "dead" or ... give both opinions equal probability at this point in view of Penrose/;Hameroff and the VAST field of microtubule/cytoskeleton consciousness research.... that's all I'm saying! Materialists only ever look for 'material' evidence. Keep looking and...