... done to point to Connor specifically, the whole idea of Spike as Angel's creation following in his footsteps does allow the notion .... The real stand out moment on that front for me is Spike's line to Angel, "Too busy trying to see your own reflection." Isn't that largely what Angel attempted with Connor? Isn't the false family Angel gave Connor in Home, as Scythe pointed out, ...
... yourself. Take a long look, hero. I'm _nothing_ like you! 'Destiny' Well, what do you think about that distinction? Was Angel tapping into something that was already there when ... who looks at the good he's done and says, "It wasn't me; it was the soul." And that's Angel's fear, isn't it? That this isn't him at all; that all this is is a soul. Because without that soul, he is...
... Quality" <tsm...@wildmail.com> wrote: On Feb 12, 5:05 pm, burt1...@hotmail.com wrote: ... under the Senior Partners' noses", as she says herself... and Angel and Spike fell for it. So, apparently, did you... Right. It was a con job... resolved, and then suddenly busts out a new solution. The story points to her and Lindsey manufacturing the whole thing. -AOQ
.... That gives him the cred. ----- Spike: Saved the world, didn't I? ----- Angel: I really wished you stayed a ghost. Spike: But I ... by Eve, who is consciously goading Spike and Angel to chase after a fake destiny while she runs her big con. ... the soul save the world on his own. Besides, when exactly did Angel do it? In this episode, when Spike asserts he saved the world, Angel ...
...> language its written in) before doing anything silly based on a supposed translation. He wasn't reading a translation. He was "translating" as he read what looked like hieroglyphs and squigglies. I agree they believed it too easily. If the Shanshu really said anything like that, Wesley would have already told Angel about it when he first got hold of it back in Season 1. Mel
... saved the world. Therefore, Spike destroyed the Ubervamp army. Not the Slayers. For the 948th time, it was only on account of the slayer army that Spike got to do the clean up. Like AoQ said, it was collaborative, clearly and unambiguously so. For the 949th time, it was clearly and unambiguously *not* collaborative in any way. And that's confirmed yet ...
... Of Quality" <tsm...@wildmail.com> wrote: On Feb 12, 5:05 pm, burt1...@hotmail.com wrote: ..."Right under the Senior Partners' noses", as she says herself... and Angel and Spike fell for it. So, apparently, did you... Right. It was a con job, ...head games? Why don't they simply wave their hands, blast Angel & Co. out of existence, and take over everything themselves? ...
... mentioned, the viewer doesn't trust Eve in a general sense, but, like Angel, may have been mislead into thinking that it's possible to work together with her ... Eve may not fully share the SP's desire to keep Angel alive until their apocalypse. Remember Lindsey's last ... (W&H) game, make them play yours. Maybe he's disappointed that Angel hasn't really taken his advice. Mel
... the world. Therefore, Spike destroyed the Ubervamp army. Not the Slayers. Spike is boasting to Angel just to piss him off. In a previous episode, Spike says he did nothing but stand there and...the fire come to him; he was playing things down to Fred. Here, he's playing things up to Angel. Different audience, different emphasis. If you are taking one thing he says at literal face value...
.... They really need Wes (or someone they trust who does know the language its written in) before doing anything silly based on a supposed translation. Way overboard for me. As far overboard as Angel at the end of Tomorrow. I'm never a fan for these occaisions when the characters decide to mix their fight with a bit of a chat about life, and their feelings, and the price ...
