... I have to agree with John Anderton. Michele did produce a Thesis, see "A BetterShow in 1940." At the moment, rather than a chronology, you're seeing a narrative account. Michele is continuing to ... the discussion of whether to proceed to S-Day or not. thanks, but no thanks, ABSi1940 is one of the better threads on shwi this year. yours in comradely criticism/self-criticism, Sam R.
..." <rrostrom.21stcentury@rcn.com> Newsgroups: soc.history.what-if Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:24 AM Subject: Re: A BetterShow in 1940 - 16 (tentative) [Sorry for bothering you at your own personal address with my previous reply; I thought I was replying to the newsgroup] a squadron of British cutters exchanging blows...
..., effective since September 19, again defer directly to the OKL. By December 1940, Kesselring will be in command of the Bavarian Luftgau, and his chief of staff Deichmann will ...(sigh) Kesselring and Wever are the men who are largely to be credited for the Luftwaffe putting up a BetterShow in this ATL, but they are also the leaders of it all, and therefore the scapegoats needed to save ...
... Navy being asleep for the first 24-48 hours, but they also don't see a... bettershow by the Luftwaffe before. The Royal Navy does... operations in destroyers. 2. The conditions for the British at Dunkerque were much better, that's true. And, in fact, they saved 338,000 men...say: I'm glad that upstart doesn't always win; now I'll show the world who's the best; besides, the British have won ...
... suggested, September. Way off topic, in a way, but how about a "A Worse Show" for Barbarossa then? I'd think that, if anything, Michele's scenario .... Could a failed Sea Lion a) cause the Germans to better plan Barbaross's timing, and/or b) help ... inadequate air resupply possible ... don't we have a replay of BetterShow here, with frozen ground instead of the Channel?...
It's been a cracker. Regarding the "worse show in 1940", the same factors that prevent Sealion being a success also limit the possible damage to Germany; there's no way they're going to get enough force across the Channel for a really serious defeat on land. The disaster to the navy is going to happen anyway, as is a beating for the Luftwaffe...
[Default] I missed the Staff meeting, but the Memos showed that nada <dwaltersMIA@gmail.com> wrote on Tue, 16 Sep 2008... "A Worse Show" for Barbarossa then? Most ATLs have a bettershow of some sort, defeat for the Russians, etc. very predictable. Someone with ... etc for CAS. etc. Of course, without the Jugoslav/Greece side shows, they may launch a month earlier, which may have countervailing ...
... only delay Barbarossa, like someone suggested, September. Way off topic, in a way, but how about a "A Worse Show" for Barbarossa then? Most ATLs have a bettershow of some sort, defeat for the Russians, etc. very predictable. Someone with good knowledge of the Eastern Front could come up with something where the Germans to *worse* not better and play it from there. David
...structure it is a detailed chronology. Yes, as in, the 16th of September 1940 comes before the 17th and after the 15th.... that. You need a thesis statement. Do I? Wasn't "A bettershow by the Luftwaffe in 1940" that kind of thing? I thought ... is. If you wish, I can by now develop it a bit: "Even with the best show by the Luftwaffe in 1940 ("best" meaning the best within the realms...
...counterfactual timelines and just criticizing those posted by others is too easy. Therefore, I'm now putting forth a proposal for the Luftwaffe providing a bettershow for us to admire from here, back then in 1940. The POD is that General Walther Wever does not die in an accident in 1936. This POD does not necessarily give...
