... and they can manipulate the market. The loser is the innovation that is the daughter of necessity. But that is another subject altogether. ++L Ack - we should probably all hit the showers now. Been enlightening to get some of these viewpoints aired. I'm glad to find that not ALL 9Fans are Luddites, anyway... (ducks and waddles off, pun 'inlined'...) Bill
... common housefly - found nearly everywhere, but not welcome in MY coffee cup! ;-) That C is still around today, one dares say _despite_ interference from various well-meaning committees, speaks volume to the genius of its inventors. Partially, yes. But google a bit and find those inventors have publically expressed mixed feelings about that measure of 'success' at one time ...
... future. C took over from Pascal and only Microsoft can document the pain and gain of moving to it. That C is still around today, one dares say _despite_ interference from various well-meaning committees, speaks volume to the genius of its inventors. I don't think it was blind luck, I think it was genius. That something may eventually supersede C is unarguable, but I think it will take a ...
...@proxima.alt.za wrote: *snip* PS: I keep thinking that this is not 9fans, but rather alt.folklore.computers. Does anyone out there have a copy of Hollingdale and Toothill (... seems to have gone from bleeding edge to minor sideshow without much time on stage in between. Speaking of respect, admiration, use as a source of inspiration, partial emulation - not of 'popularity', ...
it would really disapoint me if someone tried to implemnent asm in kenc. call it unkenc. can you imagine something as dumb as gcc asm thrown in there or something even simpler. gee, no need for asms in /sys/src ... just a small (very) of assembler in each library. kick me. brucee On 5/6/07, lucio@proxima.alt.za <lucio@proxima.alt.za> wrote: besides, its so easy to write one. ...
... sought. Forsyth may be able to tell you a bit about the Transputer and Occam, just to show that history does not have to repeat itself. ++L PS: I keep thinking that this is not 9fans, but rather alt.folklore.computers. Does anyone out there have a copy of Hollingdale and Toothill (Digital Computers, was it?) that they would be willing to part with for a moderate amount of money?
On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 22:00 -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: of them -- things like asm inlines are actually quite useful. And that's what kenc has no way of providing. the more you see, the more you come to love ken's compiler for the features it does not have. As far as I can tell C (as in language) has always been a sort of a cross-paltform assembler. Its just sometimes ...
> of them -- things like asm inlines are actually quite useful. And that's what kenc has no way of providing. the more you see, the more you come to love ken's compiler for the features it does not have. - erik
... -- that's not their fault actually. Its just that GCC is so broken when it comes to compatibility that you wouldn't believe it. Thanks, Roman. P.S. Here at Sun I've been putting some of the GCC extensions into Sun Studio, and even though I usually feel disgusted about most of them -- things like asm inlines are actually quite useful. And that's what kenc has no way of providing.
Or give up and go work for Google on AJAX. On 4/29/07, Tim Wiess <tim@nop.cx> wrote: good point. except, dennis was mostly ignored. why should mortals expect different results? perhaps we just need to speak lounder.
